Should Spy be able to backstab Uber'd players?

2021.10.21 15:44 armscratch Should Spy be able to backstab Uber'd players?

This random question came up when I was playing 6v6 with some close friends, nothing too serious and mostly for fun. When we were on the last point defending, I suggested I switch to Spy, until I was told they'd probably pop Uber and rush as soon as I got close to their backs, if they didn't do it already as I was making my way there. After the game I thought, should Spy genuinely be able to backstab Uber'd players? Without Spy's existance in Team Fortress, teams would be able to pile on tanky setups and hold a single chokepoint/capture without worry, and they would have areas tightly locked down since they don't have any need to Spycheck or turn around. The Spy's presence should be a constantly over-looming force that should put players on edge and never assume they're 100% safe, but that's not the case in 6s, even in a team without Pyros or Spy-checking, cause a teams coordination usually leads to the medics popping or the spy dropping, and in a comparsion between which county-killer assassin is better: The one with the fucking sniper rifle, or the one with a butterknife, I think its safe to say the Spy is at that disadvantage because he really lacks the ability to make the infiltration solo-pick role more rewarding. I know what's on the thoughts on alot of reader's minds: "uhhh uber makes you like super ultra god who can't die doesnt a knife not make sense", don't care lol sniper pees every 20 seconds. "Isn't this gimmicky and not really the game-changing piece that the Spy needs", kinda, but then again I still feel his knife needs more potential and power put into it, compared to the Sniper rifle's infinite range and distance from the enemy, and I feel this makes him more powerful in the 6s format without making him busted in others like Highlander or even Prolande. "What about the Razorback?", oh yeah fuck the razorback lol, in the hypothetical scenario where TF2 gets a balance patch where Spy can backstab uber'd players, the razorback should also be reworked to something like damage resistance from behind.
With all of that being said, I believe Spy does need something of this calibre to have more of an impact in games, while still keeping the role he was made for, the obstacles that enemies must deal with to counter him, and fun factor that comes from playing spy.
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